Fingerprinting Tsunami

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted posted

Apparently the Canadian Government mailed out/sent out 27,000 invitations all at once. All these people must be fingerprinted.

Our previous "record" for fingerprints in a day; 21 sets.

Yesterday: 70 sets.

That is correct. We left at 8pm.

We expect this to continue for a few days.

I hope Michelle you are getting some of this as well.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle

All the poor citizenship people, or people doing FBI prints are having to wait in line because of all the express entry. Its like a PR application.

Put a post on Google saying you have availability for Express Entry fingerprints and maybe people will come to you. I know where you are isn't as diverse as us here, but maybe they are all getting sent to the competition?

I was booked solid for the entire day by 930, and I am not even booking appointments for Thursday and Friday, I am telling them to call between 830-9 to make it fair. Also people are most likely to keep the appointments if they book the same day. I am getting probably a call every 2 minutes all day. Its nice to busy yes, but there is a limit. 70 fingerprints in one day is a bit much. 3 of us are working, and it would be impossible to manage with less than 3.

Michelle (trusted member) Trusted

Hi, wow, is this for ink or digital? Either way, that is an incredible amount of prints - even for 3 people. My max is 15 people in a day, and I am exhausted. Thanks for the info, and hopefully, some will come my way.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle I was hoping for some to trickle over to your neck of the woods!!

73 today. I do all the phones and invoices, the other 2 do the fingerprints, they are much faster than me. I also organize all the appointments, I come in at 7, calls start at 8. By 9 the entire day was booked. We only have 1 machine, but for some clients we can do ink, or depending on the situation, we can even do ink than scan them (we have a scanner) and make them digital. We actually do quite a few ink fingerprints from overseas. www.inkfingerprints.com is the site we created for overseas clients. It was worth it to buy the scanner to digitize prints. We get a ton from SOuth Korea among other places actually. We also do a lot of pardons from people who were deported to Jamaica in the 80's and 90's, so we can digitize their prints and start the pardon with them still in Jamaica.

Maybe the letters haven't got out west yet.

Michelle (trusted member) Trusted

@John, that is great, so happy you are doing well in this time where business are struggling...I am surprised that you are able to scan ink to digital. I thought Sanfran location in Ottawa was the only company able to do this. I may have to call you in the near future and get more details on this.

K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

@ Michelle My guy can scan pad & ink to digital prints. He has been doing this for years and he is in Surrey B.C. This is the basis that we will eventually use when we get to prints maybe late 2023 for him.

MIchelle (trusted member) Trusted

@Ken, really, your guy too? Hmm, I think Safran has been keeping me in the dark.. LOL..I am going to call them today and talk to them about this...Thanks Guys..

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle we are ClearNeed affiliates. But we just went ahead and bought the scanner and it was so worth it. $1200-$1300 for a scanner. (that includes software, set up etc) It was worth it to US, but being in Brampton we get tons of people with relatives in South Asia, and we got one connection in South Korea. As well, immigration consultants send us people. We didn't set up a business here on purpose, we just happened to move here because of grandparents/kids etc. But it turned out to be great from the fingerprinting side.

I have been told they are doing up to 400K invitations over the next year. You have to make sure the ones in your city are not being funnelled to someone else. This madness is just for 27k. Imagine all the fingerprints. Ask your provider if other affiliates are businer because of this and make sure your easily found if people are looking for prints. It could just be that there aren't a lot of these applications in Regina, I am not sure.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle, sorry the 400K might be inflated. Might only be 110k in the next year. I am getting different opinions form different clients. So I just want to emphasize this is "second hand" knowledge.

Michelle (trusted member) Trusted

@John, I am going to update my website and speak with Sanfran. I was approached by Clear Need years ago, and have considered moving over to them. However, I just went through my Accreditation renewal and was finally added to the list..(thanks!)..and I am in no hurry to do that again. Yikes, what a process.. Thanks for the update and information.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle

My colleague in Montreal, Manni, also has not had anyone for this program which surprises me, since Montreal is so multi-cultural as well. He said he knows a MORFO guy in Etobicoke (west Toronto) and they are only doing 10 a day, so no change there.

Although it is nice to be in such demand, the sheer volume is insane. I make my appointments from 8am-9am for the day, but by 830 there are no slots left. We have 2 phone lines, which are ringing constantly, but after 830, I am literally telling people "no, they can't come".

I have found the fairest way is to NOT take appointments for the next day. I only take them ON the day. This also ensures the people are going to come, and not "no show".

I feel bad for Citizenship and Contract Security, so for them, I make exceptions and book them for the following day. We were contemplating working Sunday as well, but its just too much. I am coming in at 6am to do paperwork, calls start at 630. (Even though I say don't call until 8) We leave at 8.

Luckily this won't be for good, or else we would have to change our model and add staff. I am so glad we went to a much bigger office a few years ago. This would have been a nightmare with covid without the space to be able to operate safely.

Michelle (trusted member) Trusted

@John, maybe this is so new, that other locations have not been effected yet. Do you offer on-line booking? I started about 4 months ago with online booking through my website and love it. It has really cut down on my phone calls..

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle

I hope you are right and you and some of the other people get to benefit from all these fingerprints. If not, for the next wave we will fly you in like an oil worker, and have you work the fingerprinting night shift. Eventually, we won't even fingerprint ourselves, we will just have a room full of fingerprint techs in bunkbeds, fingerprinting in frenzied shifts.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Michelle

We don't do online booking, but that is a great idea we will look into. Since we always have at least 2 people here, and most times 3, answering the phones hasn't been an issue. I do like the ability to book the appointment myself because I can give details (cost, ID etc) but also for those who do NOT get appointments (like today we are doing 10-3 instead of 11-2 and in 20 minutes we were completely booked) I am taking their numbers, the day they prefer, and I am calling THEM to book an appointment on that day. So hopefully we don't "lose" them.

The downside is that we don't open until 10 but I had to be taking appointments since 8. LOL

My real question is why Ken hasn't already come up with a plan to charter a fleet of helicopters, come to areas with TOO Many people to be fingerprinted, and fly them to "a network of CIA trained fingerprint techs, all who have caught 1-3 serial killers in the past 5 years". He must be busy.

K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

@ John well actually I have flown on C-141s, C-17s, Hueys & Blackhawks in the past in certain countries. However, it had nothing to do with fingerprinting. Also, not gonna elaborate too much on this topic. Hence, you are actually not necessarily too far off with your statement. I have also flown on a C-141 from McChord AFB in Washington State to Travis AFB in California before.

During that flight, the loadmaster kept walking to one of the windows and looking out at one of the engines. I got kinda worried but he reassured me that everything was ok. I noticed that when we landed at Travis, they pushed maintenance stand up to an engine and started pouring oil into it. I have also walked aboard a B-52 and looked into the cockpit of an F-15 before. However, you need the money from the fingerprinting much more than I do.

Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
888 908-3841
604 332-9213
info@deniedentrytousa.com

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

For anyone wanting more information on the flood of immigration/fingerprints etc, here are 2 links.

It looks like 400 000 applications was accurate, so I hope for Michelle and my colleague in Montreal, this spills over and you also get to benefit from this. I certainly didn't pick Brampton as the "best place" to fingerprint, but it appears to be "ground zero" for this flood.

https://www.immigration.ca/canada-express-entry-draw-obliterates-records-with-27332-invites-and-minimum-crs-of-75

https://www.immigration.ca/why-did-canada-smash-express-entry-records-with-27000-invitations

K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

@ John it is interesting that my fingerprint guy has no info on this program. I trust his judgment more since his business is much larger and globally established than Jennifer's. John perhaps you are trying to over compensate for other things/failures in life? You are not the only 5'6" male type baby boomer that buys the dodge ram truck/makes false statements truck to make up for other areas. smh

Again congrats(based on your "declaration") since you obviously need the money.

[ K SCOTT appended this reply on February 23, 2021 @ 10:30 am ]

Anyway Sport, just keep doing what you do and we will do the same. Told ya my buddy in Manhattan buddy needs a houseboy. You can call him as you drive your Olds Delta 88 back home to New York when entering Niagara Sport. πŸ˜‰

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Ken. Wow. When I can provide links, and proof, you look pretty foolish. Here they are AGAIN. (see below)

Obviously your fingerprinting guy didn't look into it. Then again...why would he help you? You are in ENGLAND. He is in Canada. Who is it again? I wonder if he is also a ClearNeed affiliate?

Buy Canadian.


For anyone wanting more information on the flood of immigration/fingerprints etc, here are 2 links.

It looks like 400 000 applications was accurate, so I hope for Michelle and my colleague in Montreal, this spills over and you also get to benefit from this. I certainly didn't pick Brampton as the "best place" to fingerprint, but it appears to be "ground zero" for this flood.

https://www.immigration.ca/canada-express-entry-draw-obliterates-records-with-27332-invites-and-minimum-crs-of-75

https://www.immigration.ca/why-did-canada-smash-express-entry-records-with-27000-invitations

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