Lost Original i-194

Ken, please read the entire posts again. Then you can apologize. READ Ken, READ.

renewer: you are misunderstanding. Coleen lost her WAIVER.

The I-94 CARD is what you are talking about. Here is a link with a picture. https://internationaloffice.berkeley.edu/i-94

The I-194 is the actual WAIVER.

By the way, a great Homeland Security page showing requirements.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/admission-forms/form-i-92-application-advance-permission-enter-nonimmigrant

I was responding to THIS post from RENEWER

“The I-94 is only for crossing by land if you fly you do not need to get the 1-194 it is done automatically on departure and arrival. When crossing by land at the checkpoint you show the customs officer your letter they will in turn send you inside to receive the I-194. They usually ask a few questions and stamp your passport and staple in the card and you pay the $6.00 US they do accept Visa. You must turn the 1-194 in before it expires. I tried crossing one time with an expired I-194 and was lectured and warned about losing the whole I-192 if it happened again. You hand them in on the Canadian side when you return to Canada.”

I-94 card. Officially called a departure record. For land crossings its used NOW in 2018 as a way to not have to do a secondary inspection for waiver holders. The other use for non -waiver people is to make sure they return to Canada.

When you cross with a waiver by LAND, they put the car in your passport. Its stamped for 6 months. When you travel within the 6 months, they do not do a secondary. Once the 6 months is over, they do a secondary inspection, which includes running you through CPIC. They then put another card and repeat.

You do NOT have to turn the card in. If Homeland Security gives you the card because you say you are going to stay in the United States for 6 months and they tell you to turn the card in to Canadian customs to prove you have returned...thats is different. Thats what the card was DESIGNED for.

When you fly, its all digital. This was started as a way for Homeland Security to check everyone every 6 months at least for new convictions, but also to make sure you are not altering your waiver.

https://internationaloffice.berkeley.edu/i-94 Here is a picture. Again.

John Rogers is wrong here again as usual. I not gonna bother to go over each area but will just touch upon a few things. I-94 cards may be issued to Canadians with waivers to essentially do a controlled entry. Not every person that has a waiver is issued an I-94. This was something that I personally discovered when my good friend that has a trafficking conviction entered the USA. He told me that he was not given an I-94 by the border. Nor did they even look at his waiver surprisingly. You have to turn it into them before it expires. This is even true if you have 1 day remaining. If not, then they could indeed revoke your waiver.

Also according to John in #22 "they put a car in your passport." I never saw a car fitting in a passport since passports are smaller than an automobile. Not every I-94 is necessarily issued for 6 months. It is up to officer discretion but they can give it to you for 6 months.

The only relevant/ correct part about #22 was the link showing the I-94. Please don't take my word for it. Call the Peace Arch Border and ask them what will happen if you do not turn in your I-94/CBP does not receive it before it expires if you have a waiver. 360 332-8511.

I stand by what i said. The cards ORIGINAL purpose, which is says right on it, was to make sure Canadians come back. It was made to be turned in. But they have expanded its role.

When you are a waiver holder, and a FREQUENT traveler, the card has a different purpose. Instead of doing a secondary EVERY SINGLE TIME, they see you have already been checked. If you only travel every 6 months, then they will always do a secondary, but if you travel again within the 6 months, they see you already have the card, and they don't bother. You can also make a trip to a border the day before and get a new card, so that when you travel, you skip the secondary. This is by land only. By air its a different system.

“This was something that I personally discovered when my good friend that has a trafficking conviction entered the USA. He told me that he was not given an I-94 by the border. Nor did they even look at his waiver surprisingly.”

If Ken Scott had a good base of clients who liked him, he wouldn't be relying on friends. My clients call me all the time with this question.

1.) You need to show your waiver EVERY TIME

2.) Do not turn the card in. Just wait until the next time you travel and they will remove it.

3.) The exception is if you are staying for a long time (over a month) and Homeland Security GIVES you the card and specifically tells you that you must turn it in when you return. THEN, and ONLY THEN, they are using it to make sure you came back when you said. Again, land border only.

There have been instances where officers have bitched at clients about not turning it in because they obviously didn't understand why they were given it. I have never, since 1996 seen a waiver revoked because of this. Ever.

Leave the card in your passport.

Well, John if they listen to you then they could end up making their case much worse...depend on the circumstances...Sad thing is that you will not know how to fix it properly and some people may say that our fees are too high.

Ken Scott...."fix it properly". You already admitted the only instance you know of is "your friend the drug dealer". Your not "fixing" anything.

You know nothing about how it works because you barely have any clients. And the ones you DO have get so upset when they realize they have been sold an empty promise for too much money they never speak to you again.

I never said that I had a friend that is a drug dealer..lol Where do you come up with these fantasies? Why do you keep having fantasies about me? Why do you care what we charge? Why do you care so much about me that you always seem to reference me?

I will state that you are actually helping our business grow in other parts of Canada now in a different kind of way and that you do not even realise it. What you are doing for us is golden and we will dedicate a talk radio show episode to you. :)

Quoting Ken Scott again "John Rogers is wrong here again as usual. I not gonna bother to go over each area but will just touch upon a few things. I-94 cards may be issued to Canadians with waivers to essentially do a controlled entry. Not every person that has a waiver is issued an I-94. This was something that I personally discovered when my good friend that has a trafficking conviction entered the USA. He told me that he was not given an I-94 by the border. Nor did they even look at his waiver surprisingly. You have to turn it into them before it expires. This is even true if you have 1 day remaining. If not, then they could indeed revoke your waiver."

Ken, I am not driving business to you. THAT I know. Your killing your credibility here because everytime I point out something, you have no answer. Worse, people notice when I ask you to prove something and you ignore the question. It means your WRONG and you DON'T KNOW.

Think of having a professional civil discussion. People ask a question, you give an answer, I give an answer. People can decide who they think is right. Michelle would be a great resource if people want a third opinion. Your a little too used to not being challenged and it shows in your inability to debate. When you get your ass handed to you, just accept it and move on. Making up bigger and bigger untruths does not make you more convincing. Your a guy, in an office, with another guy. Thats all. And there is nothing wrong with that.

I don't claim to be anything other than a guy, who does waivers, a lot of waivers and has done them since 1996. I am not perfect, but pay attention to detail and I want clients to come back and refer others. So I charge a reasonable fee, give as much certainty as possible, and am brutally honest. And fast. I do the work right away and clients get their waivers as soon as they want them. Simple as that. I am not claiming special credentials or even special knowledge. Its is experience and what i see. I just happen to do a lot of waivers.

Well, Sassy Pants(JOHN) your credibility ship last sailed when they launched and lost the Titanic. Plus, I thought the theme of the room was about lost documents? Kindly focus on the subject matter at hand...which is to help the people here.

I already posted the proper fee and information. Look at what you posted after that.