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Hi All, Please help me understand the letter from them saying below:
“...It is the determination of this office that you do not require discretionary relief under INA 212 d 3 A to seek entry into the United States.
Your future inspections, upon applying for admission to the United States, will be conducted in the normal process accorded an applicant seeking admission into this country.”
Is this meant that they lift the bar for me for good?
Thank you
Best regards
This is a September Letter. You no longer need to apply for Waivers.
Let the board know WHY you were denied entry and some details so people can see a circumstance where these can be given out.
Hi Vincent,
Agree with John Rogers can you please share circumstances and did you ask for September Letter or they just issued you on your waiver application.
Vincent what we mean is:
-why were you denied entry
- If criminal record the approx year.
I assume this was your first application. So for those of you out there hoping for some "secret" to how he obtained this, it has nothing to do with HOW he applied. For example, something in the application told Homeland Security he was not inadmissible in the first place.
When a client gets a September Letter, we may emphasize certain things in his personal letter. "This is my only Impaired conviction" . "I admitted to smoking marijuana at the border because the officer said denying it made me sound like a liar". "I was only 17 when I was convicted of this offence".
There is no space on the forms to check off "September letter".
John Rogers, you do not know how to obtain these letters. Why don't you stick to what you know ..like being a Utilities Consultant...as that is what you told me that you do? September Letters are possible for certain criminal offences and you do not know how to obtain them. Bloody hell..lol
www.usentrywaiverlegalservices.com/september-letter
Some of my clients get September Letters. They pay the same fee as everyone else, but circumstances have to be right.
Ken Scott pretends that only "he" knows how to get these September Letters. But we already caught him with a fake September Letter which he has taken down on his website, so proceed with your eyes wide open. He tried to pretend he got some guy with serious offences the September Letter, so that people with LESS serious offences will think that for $5000 he will do the same thing for them.
The letter he displayed was page 1 of a REJECTION letter, and page 2 was a different clients "September Letter".
Clever and very dishonest.
Relatively new to this forum but was just wondering - Are September Letters basically just for criminal convictions and not for overstays?
September letters are hard to get. They do exist but conditions have to be right. The conditions are as follows and they are based on US immigration law:
1) Your conviction should not be a crime of moral turpitude. There are few excludeable offences which are not considered involving moral turpitude. The most common are:
* DUI
* Common Assault
* Dangerous driving
We can get an idea of what is considered a crime of moral turpitude just by browsing the official US immigration website.
2) Your said crime or crimes were committed when under 18 years of age and if incarcerated, you were paroled no more than 5 years later after becoming 18 years of age. This means when the crime was committed under 18 and you were released from jail before 23, you are not inadmissible. No waiver is required.
3) If you committed a crime involving moral turpitude, the max sentence you could receive is 6 months jail. This is the petty exception rule. No waiver is required. This rule does not work with prostitution, solicitation or drug convictions however. The 6 months jail sentence is the max punishment you could receive if said crime was committed in the US. Offences that could qualify for this would be theft under or mischief under if tried summarily in Canada.
4) No waiver is required if the max sentences you received for 2 or more consecutive convictions not involving moral turpitude did not exceed 5 years improvement. This means if you were convicted 5 times for DUI and your combined sentences did not exceed 5 years imprisonment, you are no longer inadmissible.
Obviously, prostitution even though is legal in Canada is considered a crime involving moral turpitude for US immigration law. It is up to the US immigration officials to determine if your said crime is of moral turpitude.
Moral turpitude is a vague concept and many times than not assault with a weapon may not be considered a crime of moral turpitude. Other instances could be break and enter or a mischief charge which involves damaging private property.
In practice, almost any criminal offence in Canada can require a waiver. I have long time clients who have shoplifting only, and were denied entry and then given a waiver.
Impaired is really the only practical exception right now. If a person has an impaired, they are not being told to do a waiver.
HATS BOOTS HATS you are on the right track. September Letters can be obtained if you know how to get them. There are other things that can get September Letters though that they don't purposely list on the USCIS website. It is a complex process. I will say that at most 25% of people probably will only get these letters....again depending on the offence. John Rogers constantly tries to get info in this sense so we restrict what we post. There is a way to get September Letters for Shoplifting. HATS BOOTS HATS may I ask what city you live in? The reason I ask is that perhaps you may want to get into the waiver business. You have a good foundation already it seems.
BTW John Rogers, as usual, you are incorrect again. Normally DUI does not require a waiver as long as it involves alcohol only. If it is considered aggravated or if you have a DUI for drugs. DUI means Driving Under the Influence. Under the influence could also mean driving under the influence of Marijuana. Then it would fall into the drug possession/usage/offence category and that changes everything.
Btw John...DUI for alcohol by itself does not require a waiver. However "multiple" DUI convictions for alcohol could fall under another area of inadmissibility that is not considered criminality. There are many areas of inadmissibility and not all are necessarily criminality.
www.usentrywaiverlegalservices.com/september-letter
@28HatsBootsHats, Yes, September letters are difficult to get. I do not offer them or suggest them to my clients, as they are not my field of expertise. If a client calls me to apply for a waiver for a simple DUI and or a Dangerous Driving, I don't bother doing a waiver. I tell them call me if "they are ever denied", then we will do a waiver. The reason I do this, is the small remote US Custom POE around here, will not even accept their waiver application if we do one, for these convictions...They will actually tell my clients - it was a waste of time and money to pay someone, which just makes my clients angry and upset with me...(from experience.)...Again, keep in mind, I run my business in Saskatchewan, I can only advise from experience I have had. The bigger cities and bigger POE are much more professional and don't do this. But I am 8 - 10 hours from any big city, and the closest Customs is 4.5 hours away. So if you want a September letter, better to hire the experts who offer that service.
HATS BOOTS HATS I can vouch for Michelle. She is a very honest person and has a vast amount of experience in the industry. SHE DOES NOT RUN A DISCOUNT WAIVER COMPANY AND IS NOT IN ONTARIO. She is in the prairies and surrounded by a different type of clientele as opposed to what we have in B.C. She will not steer you in the wrong direction and is just a nice person in general. She is especially an expert in Canadian Pardons and I will say has even more knowledge than we do in this area since our specialty is resolving complex border crossing issues that involve other things that are not only us entry waivers.
Michelle is very honest and I can vouch for this as well. As she wrote, and you can read between the lines, she is too honest to suggest that you can magically conjure up a September Letter. I agree. Those that pretend they can. or that 25% of people can get a September Letter are committing fraud. Usually these same people pretend they worked for Homeland Security at one time, they cannot get RCMP accreditation, and usually they charge exorbitant fees, because they realize that once they have deceived you once, they will never get your business again.
Some of these places even post doctored documents, trying to make it look like they have gotten someone with a serious record a "September Letter'. Do you know why they get away with it? People with criminal record especially don't want attention, because obviously having a past conviction is a sensitive issue for many people. They also feel ridiculous because they paid a couple of thousand dollars for something (a September letter) and just got another waiver.
Its a shame. In the United States, a fraudster like that would probably do jail time.
John who said anything about magic? Plus, you have no idea what people pay us. I just checked in the Surrey office but I did not see you there for some reason. However...tell me John...how much do we charge for our services? Please let me know so we can update our information since obviously you are the residential authority regarding us? lol
Btw John...when I said 25% that is the amount of the people that are qualified in terms of certain criminal convictions. Stick to what you know John and leave the business to the professionals. I am starting to question your reading comprehension skills now.
Ken Scott....YOU said you charge between $3500 - $10 000.
There is no set price list....SHADY. I assume you merely chat the person up and see how "willing" they are to overpay.
Michele and I and EVERY other service that is above board have posted rates. A client knows upfront what they will pay. Period.
Yeah well, people know what we charge hun. Obviously, different services cost different prices. We do other things besides waivers and pardons and I am talking about more than September Letters. We also work with criminal defence lawyers on active criminal cases and help them with certain things like strategy development and much more. Some firms also contract their waiver cases to us and we prepare it for them and bill the firms. We cannot take the credit for winning though for the waivers that we prepared for them.
You are right that we do not charge $399 for a waiver since we are not a Discount Waiver Company. Being a parrot....again...we do other things regarding border crossing cases and not just waivers. I do not understand why you do not get it. lol
You have already been called out in the Facebook group about you being jealous of us...However, you and I know the real reason why you are jealous of me and it involves more than just the business. We both know what it involves deep down. It just boils your blood that a guy that looks like me is much more successful in the industry than you..lol It would be a different story in your mind if I had a similar genetic background as yours, then it would not be as much an issue with you. What other reason could it be?
Anyway, again you can come work for me. :)
Sorry "brotha" but I just had to finally call ya out on it..lol
" We do other things besides waivers and pardons and I am talking about more than September Letters. We also work with criminal defence lawyers on active criminal cases and help them with certain things like strategy development and much more. Some firms also contract their waiver cases to us and we prepare it for them and bill the firms."
I am sure this sounds impressive to idiots, but everyone here knows this just isn't true. "...work with criminal defence lawyers on active criminal cases..." your grasp of the law is tenuous at best. Your attention to detail is incredibly lax. Why would a lawyer, ANY lawyer, ever pay you to contribute to DEFENDING a client? You don't even Do PARDONS. You have stated this many times on here and Facebook. Telling a BIGGER lie doesn't obscure your smaller ones. Name a SINGLE law firm that EVER used you to help with a single case. Go ahead.
“However, you and I know the real reason why you are jealous of me and it involves more than just the business. We both know what it involves deep down.”
Please spell it out for me. I am completely unaware of what you are talking about. And you are the only one "calling me out", saying the same thing over and over. "Discount Waiver Company". "We use magic to get you off the waiver program" "Come on my radio show". "We keep our prices a secret" "I worked for Homeland Security but the dates are a State Secret...even though I am from England". Your going from shady, to a joke. You should ask someone, not your staff member, but someone bright who you trust, if making ridiculous claims in writing are making you look MORE credible, or less?
The Facebook page Ken is referring to is : Complaints against Federal Pardons. I encourage everyone to join and read, for more of Kens hilarious antics.
Well Sassy Pants...I see that you do indeed like to quote me. You are making my ego even larger by the day. Yes,I encourage them to join and read. They can even one of my facebook pages..like you are doing now :) There they will get accurate info at no cost and they can decide for themselves how they feel about us.
Btw John...What is the name of your Facebook business page and twitter? oops sorry my error...they do not exist :)
A professional business that has no social media links on their website?? hmmm Guess now you have to get one John since I just called ya out again..lol
www.facebook.com/usentrywaiverlegalservices
twitter.com/usentrywaiver
We have a Facebook page. Its the name of our company. I don't need twitter, its not a sign of intelligence. Trump does twitter but he can't even use a personal computer. Pardon and Waiver Experts.
Sometimes you say stupid things and get rebutted so hard, I get worried people are going to think "Ken Trump Scott" is a fake person I made up to make myself look really really smart. Without checking, you assumed I wouldn't have a Facebook page when...you first heard about me on Facebook?
Crazy.
Have a good weekend everyone!
