September Letter - No US Entry Waiver Needed

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KScott (trusted member) Trusted

Anyway, getting back to business...people please note that you will see a lot of this from these cheap Discount Waiver Companies in Ontario over the coming months. Do not be surprised if you are bombarded by email from these businesses since they know that the waiver govt fee is going up to $1400usd Oct 2020. No one else will likely be offering the September Program since they cannot figure out how to do it. The Discount Waiver Companies heavily rely on strong business volume.

This means that they charge the dirt-cheap $499 fee and hope that you will get cleared. However, what can you expect to get for $499? I guess other than guys wearing oversized karate kid uniforms who believe that Canada no longer has any social gatherings. $499 rate might work for simple cases like a person stole a car at 19 and now they are 50. There is no way this will work for the big fish cases like heavy trafficking and international money laundering. We tend to get more of the big fish cases and obviously charge a substantially higher fee. We are not under pressure to get the heavy volume since 10-20 new cases a month can easily keep us going for months on end. This is how we have thrived under COVID, So we wish to pass on the free info here since we do not expect anyone here to pay $1500-$3500 on a waiver case but we were actually surprised when this occurred.

We will continue to pass on free info and try to find ways to save you guys some money any way we can. This service will really become popular likely after Oct 2, 2020. So for the moment, we will continue to do these kinds of cases for people that get referred to us by trusted sources or whom I meet at BC social functions...COVID or no COVID. We may expand it to people outside of Western Canada. We are working on a post COVID plan where maybe we can fly you out to BC to file at one of the borders that know us and like our work.

Again, we are sorry for the behavior of these competitors, and I say to people reading to just continue what you have been doing over the past 45 days here. We appreciate the calls and some of you have been surprised that we did not charge any consultation fees to chat with us.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@KenScott

"We will fly you out?" You don't even have a "medium" or "large" UPS box. Where will you "entertain" these people? The UPS store you use isn't very large.

And is it wise to spend your CERB cheque this way?

I don't want to brag....but we also have a UPS box on Queen St we have had for years, and its a MEDIUM! We also have an office and obviously ANOTHER mailbox that comes with the office...ok, now I am showing off. My apologies. That's "fingerprinting wealth" talking there. I get carried away. And checking the mail in 2 places SOUNDS glamorous, but its a lot of keys. The UPS store alone is 3 keys! I don't want to throw a pity party for myself, but I go through pants like Ken Scott goes through stories.

KSCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

People please note that this room will become invaluable after Oct 2, 2020. A September Letter(if you qualify) is a lot better than paying a $1400usd govt fee per waiver application to CBP to process a waiver. Note that this means that you will pay another $1400 to CBP next year if you only get a 1 year waiver.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@KenScott

A September Letter would be ideal. But you cannot pretend your going to get someone that, just because you "sell" that idea.

Ken Scott has no more success at getting a September Letter than anyone else. This is a fact.

KSCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

Something interesting happened yesterday that I want to share. We had a guy come to the Vancouver office that has a pardon and went to the land border to cross. Well CBP still found out about his conviction and he now needs a waiver. He is a shining example of when I said that a person can talk themselves into needing a waiver at the border. I would like to invite him to be a guest on our internet talk radio show to talk about his story.

Also, he wanted to make sure that we were valid since he apparently heard about the Ontario Discount Waiver Company scams. I have to admit that my message is apparently getting out there warning people about what these $449.08 waiver companies often do.

It makes me quite proud with myself that apparently our message is now reaching the mainstream media. In his case, he knows of some of the infamous BC people that we cleared, and his mind was instantly placed at ease. Also, for the most part I do not just have anyone working for me and this also is extremely helpful.

Also, note that there is a gentleman named trucker that essentially has point out that the forum has degraded from becoming an info sharing place and I am agreement with him. So, I will do my part as usual to spread good information and do not engage low value trolls. It really is better if people just speak to the waiver provider on the phone and you can get a feel of the individual and the services provided. You really should not just take some posts here at full face value since it is after all the internet.

Btw Discount Waiver Companies may have trouble comprehending complex US immigration law based on a few reasons. September Letters are not in their best interest since it reduces their revenue stream since they need a high case volume to survive. We have been getting these letters for people that QUALIFY. Obviously, you willnot get one if you do not qualify. So we do it 2 ways:

1. We explain that we will try to get you one but charge a modest fee. If you only get a waiver then we do your next waiver case at no cost to you.

2.If we are 100% sure that you will get it and you want the 100% guarantee then your fee will be higher. The advantage here is that you get a 100% refund if you only get a waiver approved. The advantage for us is that we can earn more revenue on these cases.

So it boils down to which option you choose to do. Again, crimes like Trafficking, Kidnapping, Robbery,
B & E, Possession of Stolen Property, Possession of a Narcotic will not qualify for a September Letter. Some other crimes will and others will not. We will not publish a complete list here because we do not the Discount Waiver Companies taking note.

Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
1 888 908-3841
604 332-9213

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@KenScott but if people get a letter saying they "only" get a waiver, and not a September Letter, how would they get the refund? They should go to your mailbox?

Its not an insult, its a valid concern about the "methodology" behind your "refund promise".

Who owns the company your promoting on here? Is it a corporation? Who will be responsible, and WHERE, would a person go if they had to take legal recourse? You don't have a real address, just a mailbox.

If your being honest with people, and serious about your refund, then this is something you should have no problem answering. Remember, since Covid-19, some people are in a tough place financially. If they are taking a leap of faith and choosing your service, these are simple questions you should be willing to answer.

Michelle (trusted member) Trusted

Since we are speaking of refunds...and trying to lighten the mood...I am going to tell you guys about a hilarious situation I found myself in...and no I am not making this up!!!! So, I did 2 waivers for a client, and had finished the 3rd, when I got a call from client's wife, advising me that Mr. Smith had died..and if she could have a refund for his waiver....Fair enough,,,right??? So I said my condolences and asked when he died - which she seemed to stumble a bit with the answer..(I thought that was strange) but okay, everyone griefs in their own way....Now, this is not the first client who has passed away in my 11 years of doing this...so I always send a card to the family, especially for my repeat clients. I then checked into the waiver process and realized that my portion was done and Mr. Smith had already delivered his paperwork. I called her to advise that she should be receiving the waiver any day, and that I could contact USA Customs and cancel it for her..she advised no..that is fine..(Strange thought #2)...So moving forward a few months...another client who was a good friend of Mr. Smith came to my office, and I said, "I am so sorry to hear about Mr. Smith, to which my client gives me a funny look and says "oh why" and I said well he died..and my client looks at me like I just grew another head, and says when did he die? Well then It is my turn to look dumb, and I said a few months ago..and he says, I think you are confused - I just had coffee with him this morning...so now I am extremely embarrassed - thinking WTF...I said we are talking about .....aka Mr. Smith and he says yes, he is alive and well...so I realize they must have needed the money and came up with this idea to ask for a refund..so who says you can't come back from the dead...LOL..true story...

KSCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

Michelle has a funny story but let me clarify something about refunds. I cannot respond to a certain person directly due to the cease and desist notice that we issued. Nor do I entertain irrelevant questions that have no bearing on the success of what we do. The following reply is for Michelle since this is her room.

The person comes in and we further explain why they MAY qualify for a September Letter. They get charged a modest fee (depending on the case) and we prepare the packet to show why they may not need a waiver. The client goes to the border to submit in the normal fashion. The decision will either be a waiver or a September Letter since we rarely get denials. The modest fee quote is if we are 50% sure that they will get it. If they get it then it is a win win situation for both.

1st scenario: If they only get a waiver, then their next case is done by us for free. Then this particular conviction is temporarily crossed off the list of offences that may qualify for the September Letter. If they push for the 100% guarantee, then they will pay double the fee and they could get a $4000 refund and essentially a free waiver if their case comes back as a waiver only. I do not like doing the 100% guarantee on cases where we are only 50% sure but will do so if pushed. So far, we have not ever had to give a refund on a September Letter case. The bonus for us is that if they get a September Letter in this case, then they got it at a modest price, and we can now add their offence to the list in the 2nd scenario. Hence this means that the next person that calls with the same exact offence will automatically get the higher price.

We have a special case where a gentleman is receiving 10 years of free waiver prep since he did not get the September Letter as part of the special agreement that we have with him. In exchange, he is very well known in BC and Alberta and sends us dozens of clients throughout the year.

2nd Scenario: If it is a case where we know it will be a 100% approval, then we offer the 100% guarantee upfront. They usually go for this and then they get their September Letter since we have established a list of complex offences where have obtained these letters before. Hence it allows for easy phone screening. Crimes like D.U.I and Simple Assault do not require waivers, anyway, so are not included in the September Letter package. Now we did get one for Cocaine Possession once, but this case is a fluke and is definitely not the norm.

So, do people always get a September Letter? The answer is no but we have enough fair compensation in place for people that is satisfactory to both parties.

We have also gotten people cleared locally at a port of entry since the guards did not even send the packet off. This is an immediate win for us since the guards do have the local power to perform this task if needed. The guard does not issue an actual letter but simply clears the person in the system IF THEY QUALIFY. We have established an exceptionally good working relationship with the guards at 3 certain borders and they are remarkably familiar with us in a positive way and the work that we do. This is also one of our main reasons for opposing ESAFE.

Also note that we do these September Letter cases mostly for people in BC that get referred to us by trusted sources in BC or that I come across while at select networking functions. They come to one of our 3 BC locations after I have verified that they are a valid client and have the funds to pay. It is easy for us since the Surrey and East Van community is extremely tight knit. They also have their own legal recourse through the various courts if needed but these are not the kind of people that will take you to court if they feel that they have been ripped off since they will handle the matter themselves. Obviously, we have never had this issue since people that know me well know that I am bluntly honest with them in general.

Hence this is why we really do not offer this service to anyone outside of BC and Alberta.

Another note is that it is getting really old repeatedly having Ontario Discount Waiver Companies constantly refering to our corporate box. Seems like a strange kind of fetish to me since common sense dictates that we could not stay in business if we only had a box. The real deal is that they cannot figure out how we operate and the curiosity is eating them alive. We purposely do this since it is none of their business.

I also will stand by what I said earlier when I said that we do not give out our locations until I have screened you for security and mental health reasons. Anyone that lives in Surrey BC will know exactly what I am talking about. We have other tenants in our buildings, and I will absolutely not jeopardize their safety by having unknown people just drop in that have not been screened. It is my choice and I do not intend on changing it.

The people that use us are fully aware of where we are and know how to contact me or my guys if needed. We do not accept walk in clients unless they accompanied or sent by our long-time trusted sources. Hence, they already know which door to knock on.

Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
1 888 908-3841
604 332-9213

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