can I use my canadian pardon as record of criminal charges?

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K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

#37 you are correct and you know my personality. I do not understand why this individual has a strange fixation with me. I have never had a man have such a strange fascination/interest in me. He seems to have a thing for debating...but debating does not solve border crossing issues...

I prefer to not be bothered as such but don't understand what his problem is or why he is acting like this with me. The only time that I ever had to debate was with a few old girlfriends. I have never spoken to a guy that was so much into feminine type debating.

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Ken Scott. You called me while I was in Wal-Mart. At night. Maybe you forgot, more likely its an "attention to detail" thing. I specifically told you where I was.

I don't know why you think constantly mentioning England is so impressive, good for you.

You have been "threatening" to come to the GTA (greater Toronto Area) for months. You never will and everyone here knows it. Its been over a year, not a sign of anything.

"goof john rogers" is you. No one is buying that, or the other aliases.

From your September Letter link:

“If you don't qualify for the September Letter, then you will only get a waiver. We are getting a lot of hate from competitors on this since they do not know how to do it. We know how to do it for certain legal reasons that we will tell you if you retain us.”

Which one of your researchers wrote that? That's probably the most amateurish thing I have seen recently.

The "September Letter" that you posted? Its 2 different clients. I debunked that a long time ago. I guarantee that person from page 1 is not the person from page 2. It easy to prove. Would you like to prove it? I have a simple and easy way. But if your proven wrong, I want you to admit you tried to deceive everyone and apologize.

Take the challenge? Be careful....this could be embarrassing.

Trent

Does this forum have a moderator? Is there a way to have Ken banned? This is appalling and ruining what used to be a helpful site. Shame on all of you.

Vice lord

@Trent ... its not ken its this guy john rogers he is trying to act like he knows his stuff which clearly he doesnt .. i used ken for all waivers and sent him guys from all over canada. believe me john is shit ... there is ways ken gets guys in the u.s because he has some serious connects from there which is why he gets guys cleared to enter ... dont let this john guy with his big words fool you

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Vice lord that's an incredibly convincing post. If you keep it up you will upset a lot of people here, and probably get Ken banned. Why don't you offer advice if you have any, stop making new profiles, and lets just talk waivers? I don't see how you think its helping?

K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

No actually John you may get banned since you are the one that seems to constantly poke at me for some odd reason. People can clearly see that you appear to be somewhat unstable for some reason You do not do it in the other threads and I do not know why you are doing it here. It is actually not me posting other names to be used here and you should stop trying to mislead people as such since you know that it is not me.

Btw again...These other people are not me as I am a man of my word. Also, you are right when you mentioned that I said that I was going to come to Ontario a year ago. The thing is that I was unaware that I had to report to you on what we are doing with our business.

We have tried experimenting opening locations overseas. We had one in Estonia but that did not produce any significant revenue. We had one in USA for my Canadian Associates but Americans won't really pay to come to Canada.

We are doing the another one in England and I will actually visit the location on Friday to inspect it to see if it is a good fit for us. England has 56 million people and such.

Plus...you are right and you just gave me an idea when you reminded me about the Ontario trip. We are going to do a live telecast on Friday to introduce the other location to the people in England. I cannot do a Facebook live link since it will only be seen by my Facebook friends. Instead, it will be on Youtube and people can click the link on our Youtube Channel and watch it live and also see me interview my E-2, EB-5 Investor Visa Specialist.

So yes you are correct in that I have not been to Ontario yet. I think these UK locations and my colleague doing the Investor visas will allow us to finance even more projects. The goal is to reach out to people in China and India that have relatives in Richmond BC, Surrey BC, Birmingham and Brampton. Investor visas can be obtained by Canadian and UK citizens by way of money from the families from these locations. This added business revenue will allow us to reach out to Brampton and Montreal much quicker as opposed to waiting 3-5 years.

So please forgive me if I have not made it to Ontario yet. I did speak to a Brampton office space location today to inquire about rates and have found one.

Btw I am going to be civil with you since you have actually inadvertently given me ideas that have helped us to grow. In closing...we need to stop this nonsense here since this is not what this thread/ forum is about. In the future...if you want to know more about what we do, then please continue to follow our Facebook business page since you gave us a like before(if you're still there). You can also ring me directly and inquire.

This stuff has to stop right now since it is a complete waste of time and a mockery.

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

I would agree that we should focus on answering questions and bringing forward information.

Nothing personal Ken, but there is a huge difference between you and I disagreeing over a method to help a client, which is fine, because people benefit from different opinions.

Posting a fake September Letter on your website, or being deceptive will continue to be called out. I would expect if you or Michelle thought I was saying something for the purpose of making money off people, and the claims were dubious, that you would also question me. I would welcome any questions. I promise transparency.

My last comment on the matter is simply this. Take the fake September Letter down.

“The Canadian courts have held that the offence consists of two distinct elements: A prohibited act of deceit, falsehood or other fraudulent means. ... The deprivation must be caused by the prohibited act, and deprivation must relate to property, money, valuable security, or any service.”

Ken, gimmicks are not needed. Just give sound advice. People will pay for service from an expert IF they can trust them. I don't think I am saying anything anyone would not agree with. And please note, there are no personal attacks here. So when responding, please stay civil and on topic.

K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

I can agree with you John...However, there is only one thing my friend..None of my letters are actually fake and I will gladly show you the copy when I visit you at your Brampton office. I also invite you to England to see my organization there. You will see that it is real and I ask you to please print screen this post and keep it for your files for the future.

We have other September letters that we could post but it would be easier for competitors to reverse engineer them since they give a complete breakdown as to why the person qualified for this form of relief. This is the reason why we do not post those specific letters. We post the specific ones on the site now because competitors will not know how to reverse engineer these letters and get them for clients. I am sorry that you do not know how to obtain them for complex cases.

The letter that you are referring to was extremely difficult to obtain. It took a lot of research and work obtaining the relevant material and preparation/ presentation to get him this letter. I was happy that he got it and it has been a proud accomplishment for us. We are waiting to hear back on one for Manslaughter and am waiting to see if that one will work. Some do not work though and those people only get waivers. We were not successful on getting them for people with possession of a joint...Although we got one on a guy that had possession of Cocaine.

Again, I am a man of my word for everything...whether good or whatever...and I agree that we have different methods of communication.

I do not need to show fake letters since I have a 100% money back guarantee if they do not get one...So logically it would be counterproductive for me to do such as it would hurt our global credibility...Would you not agree? So yes gimmicks are definitely not needed and trying to poke holes does no one any good. I do not know about you but I do not like giving money back and have only done it twice thus far.

Yes, people do pay for expert service...Hence which is why we specialise in the new things that we put on our website last week.

I have always asked you to remain civil here and I will do likewise. Just accept that there are certain things that we can do and you cannot. It is not a personal thing it is just that I have had opportunities to see and do certain things that have allowed us to get a competitive edge.

We just do not share certain things with anyone other than the client in question. Understand that when I see I see wrong information being stated, I have a habit of correcting it. There are things that I do not know about Pardons/fingerprinting and that you do and I am fine with that.

There are things about obtaining EB-5 & E-2Visas that I even do not know...However, my colleague does and I am learning from him. There is certain border crossing material that is no longer in print or not available to the public that I have obtained over the years and keep a paper copy. Ony a handful of older lawyers may have a copy and that's it. There are things about resolving border crossing cases that I know how to do and you do not. It is not an insult but just a fact of life.

We are eventually opening in Brampton though but this was decided before you even existed...or started making posts. We can do it now but I do not want to shift resources since our main goal of China and India is within reach. So it has nothing to do with you.

Anyway, if you or anyone wishes to see our other new U.K. location Friday(17 Aug 18), then please go to the link and give us a like or whatever. I will Livestream or make Youtube video on Friday on it for everyone to see. I will be there to check it out and see if it will suit our needs.

www.youtube.com/channel/UCOU67S041F2BoXFYjVgVHeg

Anyway, I have said my peace. :)

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Ken Scott

You took a rejection letter (page 1) with all the offences listed, and attached a September Letter, (page 2) and made it look like you can get September Letters, even in ridiculous circumstances. This is to entice people who have simple offences to make them believe you can get them a September Letters, because of course everyone hates doing waivers. That's the definition of Fraud, and now your refusal to prove it points out to everyone that your not being honest.

I have 2 of your packages. One recently, and one form over a year ago.

Past clients of yours. "Reverse engineer"? In one of the cases the guy got a 1 year waiver. You didn't even get him a 5, never mind a September Letter. Your "secret" is quoting "Dillingham vs Ashcroft", a case from before Homeland Security even existed. No wonder they ignored it.

Also some of your language is completely unnecessary.
"Congress has recognized that no man (aside from Capital cases) is beyond redemption and there is no legislative doctrine of predestination and eternal damnation".
(this is a laughable point)

You make a good point with the "Matter of Hranka" that length of time could be superseeded by proof of rehabilitation. (that was needed in this case- good point for K Scott. )

But then you go off on a tangent and say:

“The I-192 packet unquestionably demonstrates that based on the Matter of Hranka, Occam's Razor and the Totality of circumstances:”

“Occams razor"? For those of you who do not know:

"Definition of Occam's razor. : a scientific and philosophical rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities.”

(this is a ridiculous thing to add)

So your packages are interesting, but nothing I would copy. I also don't like how you fill out your forms, and would do the waiver differently, a lot differently. Also I think you missed the point on this guys waiver, with too much focus on "I wasn't found guilty", and not enough on "I am sorry". That is where I will focus and I think he/she will get a 5 year waiver this time.

I will give you a lot of credit for using the Matter of Hranka argument in one of the cases that needed it, other than me, I have seen it used it properly. That sets you above what I typically see from other waivers out there.

I have no comment on England, or India or China. Congratulations and good luck in those endeavors.

In Canada, drop the fake crap and tell people you do a better job than most Pardon and Waiver Companies. From these 2 examples, I think you do. (That is a compliment)

But there is no "trade secret here". Cost wise, you should be under $1000 for sure. This waiver would have taken you under 2 hours maximum. But there is nothing wrong with doing solid work, for a reasonable fee.

K SCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

Ummm John you never cease to amaze me? What purpose does this serve for you to come on here with these fake allegations? You claim to have 2 of my people? Well if you do then it is good for you. If you don't then you don't. If you supposedly have 2 of my people then what are their first names then? Or what are their birthdays?? Yup I think not..lol

You cannot talk about shoddy work my friend since I have seen your "work" and that is all I will say. I do not need to go down to your level since your insecurity is clearly starting to show now to everyone. It must be for you to have to come on here and make up this stuff? Plus, whatever happened to the spirit of the forum?

I thought the other day that you said that you are civil but yet you are clearly are not as such. Also, I now understand why you have to do these things on this forum since you are actually surrounded by 3 competitors in Brampton. On the Spot Fingerprinting, Services, Canada E Fingerprinting & Legal Services and Airport Road 7 Day walk in Fingerprinting Services.

It now makes sense why you have to resort to these tactics. Don't worry though ...oops nvm.

These people offer fingerprinting services and waiver, so it does make sense that you have the need to try and make a name for yourself. The only thing that I cannot figure out is why you have an interest in me when clearly I have none in you.

You clearly have some strange issues that I am at a loss to figure out why though.

John no matter what you say or do, we will continue to excel and this is something that you have to get used to...It is not rocket science...So please feel free to run your business and leave ours out of it.

I have no interest in you and will still open a location in Brampton. I actually already found one but may now open it sooner than later. The difference is that I have the capital to throw at it and the flexibility to be global. You are stuck in a small location and with a limited budget. Again, please feel free to leave us alone and monitor your own business since you clearly need the publicity.

You are the one that needs to be banned since I have closed the case and you are trying to reopen it for some odd reason...which has nothing to do with the spirit of the forum. You are the real Fraud here my friend and I did not even see this post until my "Neanderthal" guy just informed me.

:: @K SCOTT added on 16 Aug ’18 · 20:29

I guess the part that you didn't know(and i "forgot" to tell you) is that I have already formed alliances with some of your select competitors in your region...that may or may not be in Brampton. So I can offer waivers for $250 in your area only(and can go lower if needed) and that will include fingerprints that they will do for us. I can absorb the cost since I have the capital thanks to years of being frugal, family money and shaking the right hands.

So when/if you lower your prices in Ontario, then I can easily follow likewise if I want...Since I know that you cannot afford to go only but so low because of your added other expenses..since you were the one that previously complained about the high cost of rent, toner, household and other supplies.

So I do not mind doing waivers for literally $250 or less in your neighbourhood only and can easily absorb the lower prices. You can make fake claims but I can do real deals :)

So, John, I do not have to engage in mindless debates with you and your absurd claims due to your insecurities. I choose not to go to your subterranean level and will just either buy you out or likely price you out. It does not matter to me either way and I know you need the money to pay your bills...Plus say hello to Airport Fingerprinting Services in Brampton for me :)

Again, I am pleasantly requesting that you refrain from me and just worry about managing your own business. Btw..I will still come by and show you that the September Letters that we have obtained/posted are indeed real...and I know that you are a man of your word and will no longer attempt to bash them. Then the 6 of us can go out for a beer or more and you and I can talk some real business:).... since I admire the fact that you helped people in the jails or were just recently released.

I have already done my research on you my friend and know more about you that you even realise:)

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

"So, John, I do not have to engage in mindless debates with you" (then 37 sentences later..)

I finally get to use my english degree. And I thought it would be useless.....

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" is a line from the c. 1600 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare, where it is spoken by Queen Gertrude in response to the insincere overacting of a character in the play". (Ken, like a guilty man, you go on and on....)

1. You have confirmed for everyone that your September Letter is a fake. I will not mention it again here. BUT its fraudulent that you display it, so I will use this: http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/04002_00 and the BBB of Lower Mainland BC. Remember, this is the internet. You want this trailing you, go ahead. If it was me and I was INNOCENT I would be going out of my way to prove it. You want Fraudulent September Letter Ken Scott following you around, that's your choice. You don't want to admit your wrong, I get it, but your making a bad business decision.

2. "if you supposedly have 2 of my people then what are their first names then? Or what are their birthdays?? Yup I think not..lol"

I don't need to provide you the names of anyone who was a client, I have your filled out and signed page 7 from the I-192. I will email or text a copy to anyone who wants it. pardonguy2@gmail.com or 416-843-1371. I will also email the parts of the letter you wrote that I quoted. I am willing to prove what I say. To you or anyone. (Unlike you) Anyone wanting to know the "trade secrets" let me know. I mentioned them already, and one strategy may apply if you are applying early, but the rest are nonsensical.

3. "So I can offer waivers for $250 in your area only(and can go lower if needed) and that will include fingerprints that they will do for us."

Your going to do waivers for $250.00? Having seen your work, I agree, that is exactly what they are worth. Look Ken....you finally became the "discount waiver company" you talked so much about. You only do waivers, and you are now far below the market. So you finally made that come true. I won't be offended by the term anymore. I also urge everyone to take advantage of that price. That is VERY discounted. I charge double!

4. "Also, I now understand why you have to do these things on this forum since you are actually surrounded by 3 competitors in Brampton. On the Spot Fingerprinting, Services, Canada E Fingerprinting & Legal Services and Airport Road 7 Day walk in Fingerprinting Services."

This is why you are only worth $250. You lack of attention to detail. You inability to see a problem, and deliver on a solution. It goes hand in hand with this statement.

“I have already done my research on you my friend and know more about you that you even realise:)”

You see Ken, again either a fabrication, or lack of attention to detail. You actually MISSED one of my main competitors, and you actually named "On the Spot Fingerprinting" which is VERY close...because they are ME. Pardon and Waiver Experts. On the Spot Fingerprinting. Oh Snap Passport Photos. All in the same place. I hope you did not form a "strategic partnership" with me...against me. I would feel very betrayed.

I will finish with something good to say. You got through all that bluster without mentioning England. You are GROWING Ken. As a person. Its gratifying to see. Baby steps. Here is your best course of action. Take down the letter. Ignore me. Move on with your life. Pretend this beatdown never happened.

KSCOTT (trusted member) Trusted

John I am going to be the adult and end the conversation. It is not worth my time and you are clearly beneath me. So run your business and enjoy your life. Sorry but I cannot provide you with the attention that you are clearly seeking. Sorry the kids took your lunch money in school. Sorry that yoy have low self esteem. So just continue to do waivers for your purse snatches and I will continue to expand globally. We will just chat when I open the Brampton location. Sorry but I don't hang around nor associate with commoners. Anyway let me know if you ever come to BC or England. Oops sorry forgot you cannot afford it 😉I can show you our new office that we just got today...or you can check out our YouTube link and see it now. So feel free to use whatever paper you claim.to have from me as a rolled up anal cleansing tool

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