hmm just checked and it's Indictable offense that i got not summery . So in QC it's still 10 yrs ?
Pardon, Record Suspensions and USA Entry Travel Waivers
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in YOUR case, 10 years PLUS the sentence
People should also be aware and review pages 165-166 of the good conduct section in this manual. I say this since this manual is used in adjudicating a pardon. The good conduct section basically means that the pardon board can deny your pardon if they feel that you have not been of good conduct. An example is that you have a 1995 conviction for car theft in Ontario but have 3 theft charges from 2016 to 2018.
Specifically, you were not convicted of Theft, but the board can say that you have essentially not been following the good conduct model to be deemed eligible for a pardon. What this means is that you will get denied for your pardon. Yes, they will write back and allow you to make a written representation as to why you should get approved.
However, the end result is that it is unquestionably within their power to either accept or not accept your explanation. Most of our people are not interested in pardons since they do not see the benefit in them. I say that they are mostly good if you need one to gain employment. We only do them if a client critically needs one.
Anyway, pardons are a big cash cow for the Discount Waiver companies. The Canadian govt can indeed be strict in terms of approving pardons. A lot of people can likely get away with doing their own pardon, pay the $644 govt fee, and save some money if they review the links below. Complex border crossing cases are a different story though since the USA laws are far more complex.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PBCclcc
https://www.canada.ca/en/parole-board/services/record-suspensions.html
Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
888 908-3841
604 332-9213
@KenScott
Pardons are much more work than waivers. Every time you talk about them, I can tell you have never done one.
Unlike a waiver, the "measurable benefits" section (which is like a personal letter) is easy to complete.
When clients get a "propose to deny" 90% of the time I can win them on appeal. A waiver is a whole different ballgame. For example we have 2 staff that work on pardons here, but I handle all the waivers myself. (And I do all appeals, pardon or waiver)
I have had difficult Pardon denials for clients who have actually been convicted of manslaughter, or vehicular homicide. All granted on appeal. (I get a LOT of referrals for pardons that are denied) Waivers are completely different. Appeals RARELY work.
Ignore the "good conduct" section, it means little in terms of getting a pardon. I have caught the parole board officer LYING and when I bring it up, you can actually be quite aggressive with the Pardon Unit and still win. I argued that the entire denial was based on racism in one case, called the parole board "white racist middle managers" and the client STILL got his pardon. I actually enjoy abusing them, because many of them are die-hard Conservatives.(The party certain civil servants donate to is publicly available) There are supervisors who are nice (one in particular) and she is so nice it is impossible to be mad at her.
How bad can the parole board be? When the fee went up in 2012 many clients BEAT the deadline and submitted pardons with $150. The PBC actually sent a letter saying "we aren't going to work on these NOW unless you send $631. But we will hold on to them and work on them when we have time. Guess when they LOOKED at them. 4 years later when Trudeau became PM. Then they started to return some and say "client cannot be contacted". Needless to say, I LOST it on them and forced them to do the pardon. Unlike Homeland Security, this is a govt agency you CAN push around at times.
Yeah right we have never done one..lol I guess that is why I am looking at an invisible pardon case on my desk right now that has a proposal to deny by the pardon board for 2013 & 2015 charges that did not result in a conviction. I guess the Canadian government just put the good conduct model in the pardon regulations for fun then? I guess pages 164 & 165 in the Pardon board Decision Making Policy Manual do not exist?? Hmmm…
Oh and the Measurable Benefit Section is on page 167 of the manual. The client did not follow the good conduct model and they may deny him now. Think I will read the pardon case (minus any identifying information) on our next talk radio show episode since we do not do any pardons..lol. But yeah, I guess that we have never done a pardon..lol
It is a shame that you will not be honest here and tell people that the Canadian govt is extremely strict on giving out pardons to people since Harper changed everything. The people can easily click on the links and read the regulations themselves. They can likely even do their own pardons and do not need to hire Batman's Pardons and Waivers in Toronto. I have previously stated too many times that you have no idea what we do.
The problem is that these pardons are major cash cows for the Discount Waiver Companies and they will fight to the very end to keep them going. They know or should know the strictness surrounding these cases by the Canadian government and will not warn people about these issues as I am doing here.
Yes, we are also in the pardon business, and even I tell people that pardons are essentially a waste of money unless you need one for employment. They can save Batman's $499 fee and just focus on preparing their own packets, pay the local police check fee and the $644 govt fee.
Also, why would someone in the pardon business tell people to not waste their money on a pardon? The reason is that there are more common people around right now that have tight budgets. There is no sense in them wasting their money on something that will have little benefit other than possibly employment, obtaining a security clearance, or get bonded. Tim the truck driver in Toronto does not need a pardon since it does nothing for him.
Furthermore, the vast majority of our clientele are not even remotely interested in pardons since they see that there is little benefit in obtaining one. A small number have asked me if it was worth getting one and I have told them all no and to save their money.
We are under a pandemic and I will not focus on negativity though.
Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
888 908-3841
604 332-9213
@Ken Scott
1. You stated MANY times here you do not do pardons and even said you referred them elsewhere. This is the FIRST time you have EVER mentioned doing a pardon, and you have NEVER mentioned doing a "pardon appeal".
2. When you talk about Waivers, you can tell you have experience because you use the correct terms and verbiage. You do not when you talk about Pardons. (you sound like a client trying to sound like they know what they are doing)
3. "Propose to deny" is one thing, I am sure despite your inexperience you could probably handle it, but an entire pardon is a different animal. I hope you were transparent and told the client you "don't usually do these" remember, if you fail, he will lose his $644.88 AND have to wait a year.
4. You need an actual office, with a follow-up system, and a database with all the courts, Police departments, and knowing WHAT is required for each individual offences. For example, sexually based offences are are very specific, and some pardons are not pardons. 2010, 2012, Cannabis pardons etc. This is someone's TRUST you are accepting. You have to be set up to do these applications, a follow-up system and a proper way to move paperwork is ESSENTIAL
5. You should leave these applications to professionals, why would someone pay you to "find your way"? You need to WARN them that you don't have "experience" with this application.
Sorry my friend but again you are not fully aware of the services that we offer or our structure. Again, I personally feel that pardons are a waste of money unless they are for the previously mentioned reasons. I agree that you should leave pardons to the professionals since Ontario Discount Waiver companies often do not have the training and experience to properly prepare these cases.
I still stand by the fact that most people can complete their own pardon if they wish. Our people are often self employed and do not care about a pardon since it does absolutely nothing for them. Also, a number of our people have US Immigration violations and American federal court cases. Hence, a pardon does them no good. I still discourage the ones with the Canadian convictions from applying for pardons since they are not worth the money
It is true though that a US Entry Waiver client will rarely win on an appeal.
Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
888 908-3841
604 332-9213
@KenScott
Again, you know nothing about Pardons. But that is ok, you claim to be a waiver expert, not a pardon expert.
A criminal record in Canada makes you close to unemployable. Worse, we are in the middle of a pandemic, and unemployment is at an all time high.
Waivers are generally useless when you can't hand them in, or use them.
So massive unemployment, and getting worse, means...jobs are scarce.
Jobs are scarce, you need MORE qualifications, connections, whatever.
A criminal record makes this WORSE. So pardons VERY useful, Waivers useless.
I hope I have clarified this.
Again, I have not been here much due to an uptick in business from the Biden election. J.R. does not seem to understand that some people in Canada are self-employed business owners. A lot of our clients could not care less about a pardon since it does nothing for them and their company.
So logically, we tend to shy people away from wasting their money on them unless they are not self-employed and are working a 9-5 job. Then in some cases, a pardon may be required. We also have clients that work in real estate and do not have pardons. I was told by them that the real estate board in BC does not necessarily hold a conviction against a person depending on the particulars.
Also, note that I never said that I was an "expert" in waiver cases. This word is reserved and used by an individual clearly lacking in this particular skill set on this forum. My agency resolves border crossing issues and has years of experience along with the necessary tools and connections to facilitate such an endeavour. Hence, there is no need to use the word "expert" since the proper denotation has already been obviously established by us as clearly and unquestionably documented
J.R., unquestionably it is difficult but at least try to keep up with the line of questioning and comprehension in the future.
Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
888 908-3841
604 332-9213