@Nicknack
A couple of things.
1. "John Rogers ." is not me. Its HatsBootsHatsBoots on a fake profile.
2. I charge $650 which includes taxes and Fingerprints (listed on my website) not what was listed here.
Just do fingerprints after your Pardon/Record Suspension. (Pardon if you are an Ontario or BC resident and were convicted before March 2012, Record Suspension otherwise) The check will come back "no record existing". You are then clear. Beware of misinformation to make you feel vulnerable. If pardons were suddenly ineffective I would have so many former pardon clients needing waivers I could retire a very rich man. It hasn't happened yet.
This story is full of inaccuracies.
This could not be further from the truth;
"“There are a number of dated convictions, probably on paper, that will predate the current operating system used and were dormant in a filing cabinet somewhere. As soon as that gets updated … it goes from invisible to visible because previously there would have been no entry.”
Saunders says the issue has been common knowledge on the U.S. side for a long time.
“They told me that years ago they would laugh and say ‘Someone gets a pardon, they think they’re so smart,’ that it hides the record. But it actually reveals it. All that a pardon does it that it seals your court records. It’s still on CPIC.”
The people who perpetuate this are usually Homeland Security, who hates Pardons, and Immigration Lawyers, who want you to avoid pardons and keep doing Waivers.
HatsBootsHatsBoots does not know what he is talking about, so please ignore his advice.
“You can request a vulnerable persons check at the arresting police force. This will show all your negative police interactions. Vulnerable record checks are hard to obtain. Most police forces will object unless you provide them with sufficient information that you are applying to work with vulnerable people, ex: children and seniors.”
Totally incorrect. A vulnerable sector check is done when you are going to work with vulnerable persons. To obtain one you simply need a request form the agency that is going to have you work/volunteer for them. Michelle can back me up on this. So could a simple search of any police website on the internet.
This is also partially misleading;
“For the FPS number, there is no true way to obtain that information. The only way to destroy it is through a file destruction. Remember though, once you obtain a pardon your FPS number, in principle, will get removed.
The only way to be safe is to get a file destruction which the local police force might object to. Each police agencies have their own rules. There is no legislation for file destructions. For minor charges like weed possession, stealing or vandalism, they will likely grant it.”
A file destruction ONLY applies if you were NOT convicted. You cannot do this if you get a pardon. The record is only SEALED, and will be unsealed if the person is re-convicted.
This is ridiculous;
“If you still have questions, a certain John Rogers will surely try to defend himself by calling me illiterate or stupid.”
I have never said either of those things about HATS. Simply put, he is a guy who likes to portray himself as an expert because he did a waiver for his girlfriend once, and has internet access. Sometimes his answers are accurate, if a bit long winded and full of moralizing. Sometimes his answers are incorrect. I can't sit here and let him mislead people just because he is the "Cliff Claven" of this forum.
Its a bit ridiculous of him to feel morally superior because my JOB is waivers, and his HOBBY is waivers. Michelle and I are both experts because we do this for a living and we do fingerprints for many different applications, not just pardons and waiver. Michelle has also done work in which she had access to CPIC so her insights on the topic come from experience, not idle speculation.
@HatsBootsHatsBoots a few of us that are regulars are pretty sure your the Bomba guy and the one putting up fake profiles. Please refrain.
