Waiver Inadmissibility

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John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@KSCOTT

No, it was K SCOTT

I ask because this guy is putting up "versions" of our names. I searched previous posts before your hiatus and it was never KSCOTT. Always K SCOTT. i don't want someone misrepresenting you. Can you call me on wattsapp? Just to confirm its you? You have the number.

HatsBootsHatsBoots (trusted member) Trusted

@John Rogers

I will ask this and only once. Who did you frustrate so they can pollute the forum with nonsense.

Also, for the individual claiming he knows me, If it's truly the person I believe it is, I truly apologize for his actions.

Anyways, how's your business going? Would like to have some insight on this new online waiver process.

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@HatsBootsHatsBoots

Actually someone posted their experience with Esafe and they found it much faster. (it was very recent, just look through some of the threads in the last week)

That is the only experience we have here. I give clients the choice but other than the one person getting it in under a month (incredibly fast) most people are getting it within 60 days anyways.

The problem I see is other than speed, this has no benefit to the client. They still have to prepare the documents, and show them when they come to the border (according to the website).

I am hoping some other people will try it, or a client will want to try it. Right now, I am doing waivers as usual.

Fatcat

HatsBootsHatsBoots, Michelle, Ken Scott and Michelle.

Give it up with your phony pardon services. More and more people are doing it on their own and getting 5 year waivers.

What will a person do for a few bucks.

Adelaide (trusted member) Trusted

@John Rogers @Michelle

I noticed that the person using the Esafe system when they listed the documents they had submitted didn't mention anything about the need to submit 5 years worth of tax returns. Is this the same with the the "snail mail", as it were, submission process or are 5 years worth of tax returns an ABSOLUTE requirement?

Thanks for any information you can provide pertaining to this.

:: @Adelaide added on 29 Aug ’19 · 17:46

As listed these were the documents they submitted (no mention of tax returns) -

The documents he provided were:
-copy of Canadian passport
-signed/dated statement about intended activities in the US
-signed/dated statement about the circumstances of past violation
-original fingerprint background check from RCMP
-proof of employment (ex. Paystubs, notice of assessment)
-proof of residence in Canada (ex. drivers license, mortgage receipts)
-three signed/dated character reference letters

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Adelaide

Thank you for asking again, I missed this.

Proof of employment is all that is needed or if self employed, the most recent assessment. I have never had anyone in any port of entry submit THAT much information.

My list is:

-2 letters of reference They can be simple unless its a harder case. Then I write them for the client because I want specific things said (they have known them a long time, they have seen changes, they used to hang out with a rough crown, he is an excellent father/husband mother)

-Proof of residence (property tax bill, tenant agreement)

-Proof of employment or income (never more than 1 item and if taxes, just one year)

-Proof of Canadian Citizenship

-Police certificate

-Copy of Pardon (if applicable)

-Letter from a doctor or a drug test, depending (if applicable)

-Personal letter. I ALWAYS write this. If a client really wants, I will let them rewrite it in their own manner but 1.) they are paying me so I should do the work and 2.) I want this waiver to be granted for the maximum. Its easier for me to say the right things and I also know that if is sounds like BS to me, it will sound like BS to them.

-2 I-192's

That is the basics. Michelle will have a different list that will vary because of where her clients hand in the waiver, and I am also sure she has certain preferences that may differ as well. For waivers west of Manitoba, Michelle would have much more experience. I do quite a few in Manitoba, and some out east. I also get a few from BC. I tend to refer Alberta and Saskatchewan to Michelle and Quebec I let my colleague in Montreal handle. Ontario is my main focus.

Adelaide (trusted member) Trusted

#52 @John Rogers

Thank you for the information and the reply.

When I was originally given the waiver application (about 3-4 years ago by CBP) it specified on the application that 5 years worth of tax returns were required in addition to 3 letters of reference.

Did the requirements change since then?

Adelaide (trusted member) Trusted

@John Rogers

Okay so just to clarify... you're saying the waiver application requirements vary depending upon what border crossing one submits their documents at?

As per your word at #52 "Michelle will have a different list that will vary because of where her clients hand in the waiver,..."

So essentially even though dealing with America (Federal process across the board) and the waiver process depending upon what province one hands in their documents the required documents vary?

One would suppose the process would be uniform across the board.

If one's case is solely an overstay, for example, one would think the required documents to be submitted would be the same whether they were handed in at an Ontario crossing or a BC crossing or an Alberta crossing.

Am I wrong to assume this?

Adelaide (trusted member) Trusted

#58 is not me. I asked John a serious question at #55

I’m sure he’s intelligent enough to discern the common phraseology I’ve used on this site from day one and thus realizes I don’t post nonsensical dross.

Seems the muppet who attempted to hijack this site has a paucity of intellect.

Bless their heart...

(Those who understand the ways of the South will clearly understand the usage of the above phrase).

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@Adelaide

#56 and #57 are not me, although the info in #56 is correct.

If we ignore Hats he will stop eventually.

Michelle and I have slightly different requirements because the Ports of Entry have different variations of what they are looking for. Your correct though, Herndon VA processes all waivers, so technically the Regina Border should be the exact same. What we have both learned is not to have clients argue with the people at the port, and just give them what they ask for, right or wrong.

Ontario, 2 reference letters only.

Today at Pearson Airport they took the first guy in lines forms....that were the two page version from 2015. They should not have, but they did.

So where ever you are, hand in whatever requirements will get you the waiver, with slight tweaks so that you don't have an issue at the Port of Entry.

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